<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2865696058982071252</id><updated>2012-01-10T17:06:22.150-06:00</updated><category term='gospel of Jesus Christ'/><category term='thinking biblical'/><category term='ecumenism'/><category term='co-belligerency'/><category term='ministry motto'/><category term='biblical thoughts and actions'/><category term='gospel'/><category term='acting biblical'/><title type='text'>Grace Community Pulpit</title><subtitle type='html'>"Discussing issues related to the Bible, Christian theology, and the ministry of the local church for the Glory of God in all Things!"</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Nathaniel Wilson, Th.D.</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10325207666347657971</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__SqHoOcLye4/SYUFUAmtxCI/AAAAAAAAABA/-w94Kz_hpeI/S220/Nat%27s+Picture+%231.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>14</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2865696058982071252.post-1822665023784568625</id><published>2012-01-10T17:05:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-10T17:06:22.158-06:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Book Antiqua&amp;quot;;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-large;"&gt;Trust in the Lord or Confidencein Man:&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Which do you possess? &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-large;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man." -Psalms 118:8&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This eighth verse of Psalm 118 opens the reality of the danger of where we replace God with man in our lives.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;The following passages:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Psalm 60:11; Psalm 62:9; Psalm 108:12; Psalm 146:3; Isaiah 2:22; Isaiah 31:3; Isaiah 37:6; Jeremiah 17:5-6, all share the same sentiment as Psalm 118:8.&amp;nbsp; There is no place for common ground between God and man in the dimensions of&amp;nbsp;trust and confidence in our lives.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Man shares nothing in common with God other than the attributes which God has allowed to be communicable (those which, to a limited degree, He can also bestow upon his creat&lt;span class="text_exposed_show"&gt;ures) toward man.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Those are&amp;nbsp;the capacity to love, have power, knowledge, wisdom, holiness, goodness, truth, and justice.  &amp;nbsp; Others are incommunicable (those which cannot thus be bestowed, but which, of necessity, exist only in God) such as, self-existence, immutability, infinity, including immensity and eternality.  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Now with that kind of knowledge about God doesn't it make real sense and show wisdom from above, to trust in the Lord instead of putting confidence in man? &amp;nbsp; As Dr. Steve Brown of Key Life Network and Professor Emeritus of Preaching and Pastoral Ministry at Reformed Theological Seminary often says, "Now you think about that!!!"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe frameborder="0" height="0" id="stSegmentFrame" name="stSegmentFrame" scrolling="no" src="http://seg.sharethis.com/getSegment.php?purl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blogger.com%2Fblogger.g%3FblogID%3D2865696058982071252&amp;amp;jsref=&amp;amp;rnd=1326235007457" style="display: none;" width="0"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="stwrapper" id="stwrapper" style="left: -999px; top: -999px; visibility: hidden;"&gt;&lt;div class="stclose"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;iframe allowtransparency="true" class="stLframe" frameborder="0" height="350" id="stLframe" name="stLframe" scrolling="no" src="" style="left: 0px; 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font-size: 10pt;"&gt;In immediately getting to the point&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;I&amp;nbsp;Corinthians 11 and Romans 12:6 shows that &lt;u&gt;preaching&lt;/u&gt;is not the gift Paul is saying that a woman as well as a man canpossess.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;These together are&amp;nbsp;also the texts used by many to say that a woman canpreach.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;However,after carefully examining the texts using careful exegesis (particularly arcingor tracing the argument), the texts show the opposite fact and &lt;u&gt;isn't talkingabout preaching at all&lt;/u&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Especially, with relationship to women preaching.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;In going over I Corinthians 11 I want to show what&amp;nbsp;is found concerning Paul'sstatement about women prophesying or praying in the church.&amp;nbsp; However what is&amp;nbsp;noticed is that nowhere in that chapter does thediscussion have anything to do with what some have considered preaching.&amp;nbsp;Not only is Paul misunderstood as having said that women could preach orpray.&amp;nbsp; The text says, "prophesying" and "prophesying" in the verses of I Corinthians 11 and it's context have nothing to do with women preaching,whether under the authority of&amp;nbsp;their husbands or not.&amp;nbsp; It is notabout that at all. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Actuallyprophesying in that chapter means nothing of the idea of being along the sameline as the authority of Scripture.&amp;nbsp; Based on the context of I Corithians 11 it has to do with declarativestatements from God through a person under the authority of Scripture for thetest of authenticity, because of the fallibility of the humanpersonality.&amp;nbsp; The issue is that it is not along the lines of Old Testamentprophecy, or New Testament&amp;nbsp;revelation.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Better said is itisn't&amp;nbsp;in equality with Scripture as an infallible orinerrant&amp;nbsp;authority.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; The context must be taken under consideration when interpreting verses.&amp;nbsp; New Testament prophesy or "propheteias" that Paul discusses in the contexts ofRomans 12:6 and I Corinthians 11, is rather&amp;nbsp;a human report of somethingthat God has brought to mind or prophetic utterances.&amp;nbsp; It is different from teaching, in thatteaching is based on a written text of Scripture, while prophesy is based onthe immediate impression that God is directing our thoughts to information thatwe would not otherwise have known or spoken.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Also, in going over Romans 12:6 although 12:6a uses the same English word "prophecy" (propheteian) instead of "prophesy", the next portion of the verse, 12:6b, explains the use of the gift with relationship to "prophesyings" (propheteias) or prophetic utterances and is not refering to the text of Scripture or "prophecy of Scripture" as in II Peter 1:20 although the same Greek word "propheteia' is used.&amp;nbsp; Once again, the way in which&amp;nbsp;a word is used in its context gives it proper meaning in a verse in which it is used.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;An&amp;nbsp;example of what the New Testament gift of prophesy was, would befor example, if someone in a prayer meeting or other occasion said, "I feel that weneed to pray for a certain church in a certain city, because it is undergoingsome attack," and the next day a report came by email or postal service confirmingthat was the&amp;nbsp;case, and the prayers of the people were answered.&amp;nbsp;Also, another example would be,&amp;nbsp;suppose you were under stress about some situation involving a report that was&amp;nbsp;placed on&amp;nbsp;a table in your&amp;nbsp;office&amp;nbsp;and you needed to find thereport, but was uncertain of where to look because someone removed it to anotherlocation.&amp;nbsp; Then you felt the leading of the Lord or as we sometimes say,"Something told me to --- look in a certain drawer in an unusual place andthere it would be found.”&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Here aresome texts that I think go along with this kind of and explanation concerningthe&amp;nbsp;"New Testament gift of&amp;nbsp;prophesy" of which I believewomen as well as men could possess, and it did not mean preaching the gospel: &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;1.&lt;a href="http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?new=1&amp;amp;word=Acts+2%3A17&amp;amp;section=2&amp;amp;version=nas&amp;amp;language=en" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;Acts 2:17&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;2.&lt;a href="http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?word=1+Corinthians+14%3A1-4&amp;amp;section=2&amp;amp;version=nas&amp;amp;new=1&amp;amp;oq=&amp;amp;NavBook=1co&amp;amp;NavGo=4&amp;amp;NavCurrentChapter=4" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;I Corinthians 14:1-4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;3.&lt;a href="http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?word=1+Corinthians+14%3A29-32&amp;amp;section=2&amp;amp;version=nas&amp;amp;new=1&amp;amp;oq=&amp;amp;NavBook=1co&amp;amp;NavGo=14&amp;amp;NavCurrentChapter=14" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;I Corinthians 14:29-32 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;(cf. &lt;a href="http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?word=Matthew+7%3A15-16&amp;amp;section=2&amp;amp;version=nas&amp;amp;new=1&amp;amp;oq=&amp;amp;NavBook=1co&amp;amp;NavGo=14&amp;amp;NavCurrentChapter=14" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;Matthew 7:15-16&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;4.&lt;a href="http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?word=1+Thessalonians+5%3A20+-+21&amp;amp;section=9&amp;amp;version=nas&amp;amp;new=1&amp;amp;oq=&amp;amp;NavBook=1th&amp;amp;NavGo=5&amp;amp;NavCurrentChapter=5" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;I Thessalonians 5:20-21&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;"&gt;**&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: windowtext;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;5.&lt;a href="http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?word=1+Corinthians+14%3A1&amp;amp;section=9&amp;amp;version=nas&amp;amp;new=1&amp;amp;oq=&amp;amp;NavBook=1th&amp;amp;NavGo=5&amp;amp;NavCurrentChapter=5" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;I Corinthians 14:1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;6.&lt;a href="http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?word=1+Corinthians+14%3A37-38&amp;amp;section=9&amp;amp;version=nas&amp;amp;new=1&amp;amp;oq=&amp;amp;NavBook=1co&amp;amp;NavGo=14&amp;amp;NavCurrentChapter=14" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue;"&gt;I Corinthians 14:37-38&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;All of thetexts above show how the above mentioned issue concerning women preaching ismisunderstood because biblical theology, the theology of the Bible, is notconsidered. This is also because the exegesis of the above mentioned texts havenot always been considered as well.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The contextfor the above discussed biblical teaching from Romans 12:6 and I Corinthians 11 concerning the "New Testament&lt;/span&gt;gift of prophesy" that Paul discusses is not the same as "theprophecy of Scripture"; "word of prophecy"; or"prophecy"&amp;nbsp;as Peter is talking about in II Peter 1:19-21.&amp;nbsp;Actually when the Scriptures themselves are being discussed the text uses theword "prophecy" with the "c" at the end before the"y".&amp;nbsp; When it is talking about a unction from the Lordconcerning and immediate matter which is not Scripture but sifted throughScripture, the text uses the word "prophesy" with the "s"at the end before the "y".&amp;nbsp; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;strong&gt;________________________________________________&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Note**&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;(In I Thessalonians 5:20 inthe other literal translations the word is "prophesyings" but the NIVhas it wrong as "prophecies".&amp;nbsp; It is good to have a good literal(formal)&amp;nbsp;translation rather than a dynamic (equivalence) translation.&amp;nbsp;This is one of the reasons that I tell people all the time to study the Biblein various translations.) &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2865696058982071252-8212121776846182746?l=gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/feeds/8212121776846182746/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/2011/10/misundestandings-from-i-corinthians-11.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default/8212121776846182746'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default/8212121776846182746'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/2011/10/misundestandings-from-i-corinthians-11.html' title='Misundestandings from I Corinthians 11 and Romans 12:6 concerning the ministry of women in the local church: &quot;women to preach&quot; or &quot;women to prophesy&quot;.'/><author><name>Nathaniel Wilson, Th.D.</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10325207666347657971</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__SqHoOcLye4/SYUFUAmtxCI/AAAAAAAAABA/-w94Kz_hpeI/S220/Nat%27s+Picture+%231.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2865696058982071252.post-3788697824399489761</id><published>2011-10-04T15:21:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2011-10-04T16:59:55.313-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='acting biblical'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ministry motto'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='biblical thoughts and actions'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='thinking biblical'/><title type='text'>Making a Motto for Ministry a Biblical Reality</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;I have had for years a motto for my life and ministry as a biblical Christian husband, father, friend, brother, preacher, pastor-teacher, and president &amp;amp; professor of a divinity school.   &amp;nbsp; The motto simply states, "Training Disciples to Think and Act Biblically".&amp;nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we, the Church of Jesus Christ, would train disciples to think biblically, then most assuredly they would at the least learn to act biblically...but then that reveals three possible and probable realities:&amp;nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;(1) the actions being displayed are telling that the Bible is or isn't thought of;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;(2) the training is or isn't from the Bible;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;(3) but then again, there are those who just aren't "DISCIPLES" -- whether they are doing the training, or are the one's being trained. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2865696058982071252-3788697824399489761?l=gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/feeds/3788697824399489761/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/2011/10/making-motto-for-ministry-biblical.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default/3788697824399489761'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default/3788697824399489761'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/2011/10/making-motto-for-ministry-biblical.html' title='Making a Motto for Ministry a Biblical Reality'/><author><name>Nathaniel Wilson, Th.D.</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10325207666347657971</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__SqHoOcLye4/SYUFUAmtxCI/AAAAAAAAABA/-w94Kz_hpeI/S220/Nat%27s+Picture+%231.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2865696058982071252.post-9016836828737014227</id><published>2011-06-22T09:46:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2011-06-22T10:09:03.904-05:00</updated><title type='text'>MARRIAGE: A Portrait of Our Unbreakable God and His Unbreakable Bond</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;I believe sanctity of marriage as the Lord expresses it in commandment form in Mark 10:9 has much to say about the common and demonic debilitation brought upon it by divorce. It states in Mark 10:9, "What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate." (NASB)----&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;It's true that God is and always has been the link that men and women don't link up with...so in disobedience they link up with mess ups which leads to nothing but breakups of themselves and others...when He is our fulfillment entirely, then the one He blesses us with makes the link ups God designed and God glorifying...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What an unbreakable bond by and unbreakable God!!!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2865696058982071252-9016836828737014227?l=gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/feeds/9016836828737014227/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/2011/06/marriage-portrait-of-our-unbreakable.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default/9016836828737014227'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default/9016836828737014227'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/2011/06/marriage-portrait-of-our-unbreakable.html' title='MARRIAGE: A Portrait of Our Unbreakable God and His Unbreakable Bond'/><author><name>Nathaniel Wilson, Th.D.</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10325207666347657971</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__SqHoOcLye4/SYUFUAmtxCI/AAAAAAAAABA/-w94Kz_hpeI/S220/Nat%27s+Picture+%231.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2865696058982071252.post-8113191159337212313</id><published>2010-12-26T00:57:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2010-12-26T02:19:49.644-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Christmas Day:  A Day To Do Birthdays Right!!!</title><content type='html'>&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;Praises to our Lord on this day (December 25th), the celebration of His birthday! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;It amazes me how we would be greatly offended if on our birthdays those who say they love us and are our family and friends, gave gifts to others and not us.  But we do this very thing to the Lord every year.  Yet He kindly let’s us see our birthdays with the gifts and blessings to match. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;Someone may say, "Yes, but how am I to give Jesus a birthday gift?  How is that possible?"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;May I suggest that since since we give gifts to persons in bodily form; that is, we present or have them presented to a person in or at a location where we and they can meet each other.  Then it should follow that the Lord is given a gift in the same fashion.  What is the body of Christ on earth?  The local church -- the body of baptized believers in Jesus Christ, the Lord, who meet regularly together in fellowship and worship toward Him and live in obedience to His commands as set forth in His Holy Word, which is each week to be regularly proclaimed and taught by leaders called pastor-teachers (Ephesians 3:17-21; 4:10-13; 5:15-21, 30; Acts 1:8; 2:41-47; Hebrews 10:23-25; I Timothy 4:16; I Peter 5:2).  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;So then, why not present on Christmas Day the gift you would bring to the Lord, by giving it to Him in worship as a member of His body the local church where you worship.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;What has been accepted is that we regularly and systematically buy gifts with the resources which the Lord has blessed us to have; from most places and persons that sell during this time of year to make merchandise and profit in the name of the very One of whom they aren't willing to even acknowledge on that day as the real reason for the season which they profit from.  Then we turn around and do somewhat of a similiar thing as the persons and places of merchandise and profit.  We give those gifts we purchase to persons of whom this day is not their birthday.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;What we need to do on Christmas Day is give to the places that represent the Lord and His work.  Starting with the local church, and then other parachurch minstries and charities.  What would be right is to give gifts to our children and others as they should do with us as well...on one another's birthdays.    For some their birthday is Christmas Day!  All this &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;means is that gifts should be given to Christ and to them.  Why?  &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;It's their birthday!!!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;Now let me ask this question: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:trebuchet ms;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Which of us are really doing birthdays right????&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2865696058982071252-8113191159337212313?l=gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/feeds/8113191159337212313/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/2010/12/christmas-day-day-to-do-birthdays-right.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default/8113191159337212313'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default/8113191159337212313'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/2010/12/christmas-day-day-to-do-birthdays-right.html' title='Christmas Day:  A Day To Do Birthdays Right!!!'/><author><name>Nathaniel Wilson, Th.D.</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10325207666347657971</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__SqHoOcLye4/SYUFUAmtxCI/AAAAAAAAABA/-w94Kz_hpeI/S220/Nat%27s+Picture+%231.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2865696058982071252.post-1909020624036358406</id><published>2010-07-19T10:45:00.010-05:00</published><updated>2010-07-19T11:22:07.830-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='co-belligerency'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='gospel'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='gospel of Jesus Christ'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ecumenism'/><title type='text'>A Danger to the Gospel of Jesus Christ: Co-belligerency by Ecumenism</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;I still find it a blatant disregard for the sake of the gospel of Jesus Christ that we should seek to be in a co-belligerency of any sort with anyone except in the first cause, and ultimacy of our responsibility as Christians, that being the spread of the gospel. Also, if this is done it aught to be with those who share our common faith. The gospel is always at stake when there is the unequally yoking of ourselves with unbelievers (II Corinthians 6:14).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are not brothers and sister with unbelievers in Jesus Christ!! The kind of talk and those kind of statements such as: "we are brothers and sister" and “we must learn to live as brothers and sisters, or die together as fools” are not true or biblical. I just see the fact that the Muslims, Hindus, and Sikhs, as well as any other followers of the religions of this world are going to in their system of belief – do what they will to reach or proselytize converts to their system. So we as Christians and followers of Jesus Christ are within the system He has handed down in Scripture, to share the gospel with unbelievers that they might come to know HIM as the one true Lord and Saviour of all. These other religions do not share that sentiment. More so in the fact that they exist apart from any desire to surrender to Jesus Christ as Lord.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ecumenism is becoming more and more a deception that is leading to the destruction of the message the Church of Jesus Christ has. It is my conviction that we should in the system that Jesus Christ has laid down in His Word; reach the masses of humanity with the liberating truth of the Gospel. After all that is what the other religious groups are going to do anyway within their own system. They and their beliefs are diametrically opposed to Biblical Christianity either way. Let them do what they are going to do, and we should do what we are going to do to reach humanity. But I don’t see that there is any need to lay down our standards and think that they are going to do the same and we should just throw our arms around them and their system and think that it will all work out.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Apostle Paul warns us of this kind of strategy in Romans 16:17-18, “(&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;17) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. (&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;18) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people (NIV).”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Again in II Corinthians 11:12-15 he says, “(&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;12) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;And what I do I will continue to do, in order to undermine the claim of those who would like to claim that in their boasted mission they work on the same terms as we do. (&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;13) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. (&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;14) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. (&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;15) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds (ESV).”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So for me to be a fellow worker with such things that are contrary to Scripture and conscience is a sin and I cannot go against either.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2865696058982071252-1909020624036358406?l=gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/feeds/1909020624036358406/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/2010/07/danger-to-gospel-of-jesus-christ-co.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default/1909020624036358406'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default/1909020624036358406'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/2010/07/danger-to-gospel-of-jesus-christ-co.html' title='A Danger to the Gospel of Jesus Christ: Co-belligerency by Ecumenism'/><author><name>Nathaniel Wilson, Th.D.</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10325207666347657971</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__SqHoOcLye4/SYUFUAmtxCI/AAAAAAAAABA/-w94Kz_hpeI/S220/Nat%27s+Picture+%231.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2865696058982071252.post-7305710415631843082</id><published>2010-03-17T13:39:00.021-05:00</published><updated>2010-03-17T15:27:12.584-05:00</updated><title type='text'>"Living With A Giant:  The Life of a Great Man of Faith"</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/object3/975/116/n133917910707_9963.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 200px; FLOAT: left; HEIGHT: 250px; CURSOR: hand" border="0" alt="" src="http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/object3/975/116/n133917910707_9963.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; I write this blog with a heart of gratitude to God in appreciation for the life and ministry of Dr. Robert H. Wilson, Sr., affectionately known by those who know him as "Dr. Bob!" He has just celebrated 76 years of the ministry in preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ. On November 22, 2009, The Baptist Ministers' Conference of Dallas, Texas along with many other accross the nation convened at Cornerstone Baptist Church of Christ (founded by Dr. Wilson in 1981) where Dr. Craig E. White is currently serving as pastor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dr. Wilson is currently Pastor Emeritus of Cornerstone Baptist Church of Christ. He began preaching at the age of 9, and pastored his first congregation in Columbia, South Carolina at 16. He has pastored congregations until he founded Cornerstone in 1981 and after 25 years of serving as Senior Pastor retired in 2006 at the age of 82. He has served in a myriad of areas including, the National Baptist Convention of America, Inc. in which he provided illustrious leadership as Executive Director of the Foreign Mission Board and then the Congress of Christian Education. He is the proud husband of his wife of 64 years, Elise Wider Wilson, and father of Roberta Wilson Nicholson and Robert H. Wilson, Jr. He most enjoys time spent with his grandchildren and great grandchildren.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am grateful to God for the life and ministry of Dr. Robert H. Wilson, Sr. For me like so many others across this nation he has been a mentor and friend. In the many years I have known him, which began by way of my local church association’s (Eastern 7th District Baptist Association) past moderator, Dr. M. L. Thomas. I must say that he has always been a giant among preachers of the 20th and 21st centuries.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img style="MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; WIDTH: 231px; FLOAT: right; HEIGHT: 321px; CURSOR: hand" border="0" alt="" src="http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs236.snc1/8319_177698185707_133917910707_4254086_481991_n.jpg" /&gt; My mind goes to the book by Warren Weirsbe entitled, "Living With the Giants: Lives of Great Men of the Faith", in which Weirsbe chose men of God/great preachers of the 17th -20th centuries as examples of faith to be emulated.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, I must dare to say the same is true of Dr. Robert H. Wilson, Sr. He is a man of God to be emulated as an example of genuine faith, anointed Biblical preaching, and godly shepherding as a pastor-teacher. I take a pun from Weirsbe with relation to the kind of giant we have in Dr. Wilson. Weirsbe says, "We are prone to be so fascinated with the latest religious fads and Christian celebrities that we forget that 'there were giants in the earth in those days...' Well, I would say we still have giants of a godly variety in the earth in our days, in the person of Dr. Robert H. Wilson!!!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Long may he live! And may all of his years be blessed!!!!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2865696058982071252-7305710415631843082?l=gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/feeds/7305710415631843082/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/2010/03/living-with-giant-life-of-great-man-of.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default/7305710415631843082'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default/7305710415631843082'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/2010/03/living-with-giant-life-of-great-man-of.html' title='&quot;Living With A Giant:  The Life of a Great Man of Faith&quot;'/><author><name>Nathaniel Wilson, Th.D.</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10325207666347657971</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__SqHoOcLye4/SYUFUAmtxCI/AAAAAAAAABA/-w94Kz_hpeI/S220/Nat%27s+Picture+%231.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2865696058982071252.post-6999263181554146822</id><published>2010-02-16T03:29:00.008-06:00</published><updated>2010-02-16T05:08:01.452-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Prayer -- A Grace and A Lifestyle: To Be Ever Before Him</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;The reality of prayer for the believer and its long term effects is what many never consider. They would prefer the short term thrill, and miss the eternal rewards. What a travesty of Christian discipleship and practice!!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In Scripture prayer is totally a lifestyle (Philippians 4:6; Ephesians 6:18) and a grace (Psalm 145:18; Hebrews 4:16) given us by God to keep us ever before Him (I Kings 8:28-30).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;May that grace dominate our lives. To be ever before Him!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;May that lifestyle be the practice of our lives. To be ever before Him!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These two have a long term and eternal affect! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2865696058982071252-6999263181554146822?l=gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/feeds/6999263181554146822/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/2010/02/prayer-grace-and-lifestyle-to-be-ever.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default/6999263181554146822'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default/6999263181554146822'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/2010/02/prayer-grace-and-lifestyle-to-be-ever.html' title='Prayer -- A Grace and A Lifestyle: To Be Ever Before Him'/><author><name>Nathaniel Wilson, Th.D.</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10325207666347657971</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__SqHoOcLye4/SYUFUAmtxCI/AAAAAAAAABA/-w94Kz_hpeI/S220/Nat%27s+Picture+%231.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2865696058982071252.post-8437799281223622472</id><published>2009-07-21T16:33:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2009-07-21T16:51:41.614-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Living Life for the Expression of God’s Glory: Lessons from the Icon and Idol of Michael Jackson</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;It is so much too the liking of where we stand to where we aught to be standing, that shines in the face of life lived and ended.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Death for all is not as realistic as when it occurs. It is all too often that life is lived by so many except for the expressed recognition of God's glory. I pray that many who have opportunity would do so in taking and making the most of it to express it to the glory of God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The iconic reality of Michael Jackson is and was. The idolatry of the nation and world with relation to Michael Jackson was and is. The lessons learned are still for many obvious but not so attentive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Living a life to the glory of God is still without vain (Ecclesiastes 3:14-15; 5:7). But as Solomon teaches us living a life without God is and always will be with vanity, and vanity of vanities (Ecclesiastes 2:1-11; 5:7; 6:1-12). Thank God for a life lived!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To God be the Glory for lives lived for the expression of His Glory! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2865696058982071252-8437799281223622472?l=gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/feeds/8437799281223622472/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/2009/07/living-life-for-expression-of-gods.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default/8437799281223622472'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default/8437799281223622472'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/2009/07/living-life-for-expression-of-gods.html' title='Living Life for the Expression of God’s Glory: Lessons from the Icon and Idol of Michael Jackson'/><author><name>Nathaniel Wilson, Th.D.</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10325207666347657971</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__SqHoOcLye4/SYUFUAmtxCI/AAAAAAAAABA/-w94Kz_hpeI/S220/Nat%27s+Picture+%231.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2865696058982071252.post-1145513701710456948</id><published>2009-04-27T20:53:00.006-05:00</published><updated>2009-04-27T21:49:32.216-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Turnabout isn't always fair play:  Responding to Warren's sudden change on the issue of "same sex" marriage</title><content type='html'>Some things are just too obvious to deny!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In a recent April 9, 2009 OneNewsNow.com article by Jim Brown, entitled, &lt;a href="http://www.onenewsnow.com/Church/Default.aspx?id=483576"&gt;“Warren’s ‘backsliding’ on marriage damages the church”&lt;/a&gt; Bishop Harry Jackson, Jr. of Washington, D. C.’s High Impact Leadership Coalition was outraged that Rick Warren of Saddleback Church of Lake Forest, California would offer his apology Monday, April 6, 2009 on CNN’s Larry King Live&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=481280"&gt;(1)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; concerning his support during the fall of 2008 of California’s marriage proposition 8 amendment.&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.onenewsnow.com/Church/Default.aspx?id=483576"&gt;(2)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; Jackson said, Warren has done “tremendous damage” by his apology. Warren stated that he “has never been and never will be an anti-gay marriage activist.”&lt;a href="http://www.onenewsnow.com/Church/Default.aspx?id=483516"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;(3)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's apparent to me that the Bible, which many like Warren purports to believe in, truly disagrees with them. So it is obvious to me that they just don't believe or agree with the Bible or what it says. But the desire is to fit into both camps to gain from each what is most influential rather than to "from the start", just please God or what God has said in the Bible regarding this and other matters, that He regards as sin and unrighteousness, as well as those that are holy and righteousness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, I don’t want to be judgmental in the since of knowing for certain; but I seem to want to think and sense that men like Warren, Osteen, Ted Haggard and the like are hiding indiscretions. Maybe even the likelihood of just such sins in their own lives. After all, if you notice in Paul's statement to the Romans in chapter one verse 32 he states, "Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I believe these two phrases show the two reasons for the sudden turn-about by many in agreement to support homosexuality and other sexual perversions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Notice the phrases "&lt;strong&gt;not only do the same&lt;/strong&gt;" and "&lt;strong&gt;but have pleasure in them that do them&lt;/strong&gt;".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, the phrase "not only do the same" is quite suggestive from Paul that these, to whom it is apparent, knowing of God's judgment of death to all who practice these lifestyles of sin, also themselves "do the same". This is why I stated that there seems to be a 'hiding of indiscretions'. Why else would anyone knowing the judgment of God against this, not condemn these lifestyles?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, the phrase "but have pleasure in them that do them". This is also obvious that Paul is showing that there is the carrying out of these sins in the lives of these persons (who know the death judgment of God against these sins and upon those who practice it), but also, the pleasure they have with the persons who practice these sins. There is also a since of pleasure with these persons if you think about it in our day, in which they (homosexuals and the like) are large supporters to "ministries" that support their causes rather than condemn those causes. So in that since, there is a pleasure by many who "have pleasure in them that do them". That is why I said at the start that the desire by men such as these is to fit into both camps to gain from each what is most influential rather than please God. God will take care of any ministry and minister He has called if they would just do the work of ministry to which He has called them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is why I believe there is this sudden turnabout by Warren and others to support these lifestyles and the persons who practice them.&lt;br /&gt;___________________________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=481280"&gt;1. http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=481280&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.onenewsnow.com/Church/Default.aspx?id=483576"&gt;2. http://www.onenewsnow.com/Church/Default.aspx?id=483576 &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.onenewsnow.com/Church/Default.aspx?id=483516"&gt;3. Ibid., http://www.onenewsnow.com/Church/Default.aspx?id=483516&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2865696058982071252-1145513701710456948?l=gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/feeds/1145513701710456948/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/2009/04/turnabout-isnt-always-fair-play.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default/1145513701710456948'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default/1145513701710456948'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/2009/04/turnabout-isnt-always-fair-play.html' title='Turnabout isn&apos;t always fair play:  Responding to Warren&apos;s sudden change on the issue of &quot;same sex&quot; marriage'/><author><name>Nathaniel Wilson, Th.D.</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10325207666347657971</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__SqHoOcLye4/SYUFUAmtxCI/AAAAAAAAABA/-w94Kz_hpeI/S220/Nat%27s+Picture+%231.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2865696058982071252.post-628666994957215355</id><published>2009-03-09T15:05:00.014-05:00</published><updated>2009-03-09T16:48:50.795-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Our Prayers for God's Glory and Grace in the Winter's and First Baptist Church of Marryville, IL Families</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__SqHoOcLye4/SbV6rqGK9SI/AAAAAAAAACA/QuWV5OmKDhE/s1600-h/FredWinters.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5311286226006504738" style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; WIDTH: 205px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 255px" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__SqHoOcLye4/SbV6rqGK9SI/AAAAAAAAACA/QuWV5OmKDhE/s320/FredWinters.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dr. Fred Winters of First Baptist Church of Marryville, Illinois was killed on yesterday while preaching during moring church services. A 27 year old gunman opened fired on him while he was preaching from the pulpit. He attempted to shield himself with his Bible as the gunman opened fire. He recieved gunshot wounds to his chest. The pistol then jammed. He then pull a knife out and lashed out at church members, who tried to subdue him. Some were injured in the attempt. The gunman then, stabbed himself. Dr. Winters however, is the only reported death at this time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;May the Lord keep, strengthen, and comfort the Winter's family and the First Baptist Church of Maryville, Illinois' church family. Our prayers go out to them in the tragic loss of their husband, father, and pastor on yesterday. May He display His glory in the midst of this moment of tragedy!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;May he use this time to alert all of us to the reality of the uncertainty of the next moment. But the glorious certainty of a definite destiny with Him to those who know Him, and a tragic damnation of a definite destiny without Him, to those who know Him not. This is without doubt, a time for these and others, when they are in need, of our showing forth godly love and support.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Always remember, "Except for the grace of God, there we would be!"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God knows how do display His glory and grace even in the midst of this tragic situation. His grace is upon all who believe even in death. The Apostle Paul said to the Corinthian Christians, "....absent from the body, and present with the Lord" (II Corinthians 5:8b-c --KJV).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That same grace is available even to those who remain, "For we walk by faith, not by sight:)" (II Corinthians 5:7). Remember David says, &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;(15)&lt;/span&gt; The eyes of the Lord are upon the righteous and His ears are attentive to their cry; &lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;(17)&lt;/span&gt; The righteous cry out, and the Lord hears them; He delivers them from all their troubles. &lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;(18)&lt;/span&gt; The Lord is close to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit. &lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;(19)&lt;/span&gt; A righteous man may have troubles, but the Lord delivers him from them all;" (Psalm 34:15, 17-19 --NIV).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We pray for God's justice to be done in this murder of this pastor. As David says in Psalm 34:16, "the face of the Lord is against those who do evil, to cut off the memory of them from the earth." But we are tempered with an attitude of prayer for the salvation of the soul of those to whom justice will be, and should be done upon (Genesis 5:5-6). For God would rather see the wicked turn from the sin and error of their ways, and turn to Him rather than die in their sin (Ezekiel 18:23, 32; 33:11).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let us not forget that the young man that commited this act has family who are also affected by the tragic repercussions of the actions he carried out.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2865696058982071252-628666994957215355?l=gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/feeds/628666994957215355/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/2009/03/our-prayers-for-gods-glory-and-grace-in.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default/628666994957215355'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default/628666994957215355'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/2009/03/our-prayers-for-gods-glory-and-grace-in.html' title='Our Prayers for God&apos;s Glory and Grace in the Winter&apos;s and First Baptist Church of Marryville, IL Families'/><author><name>Nathaniel Wilson, Th.D.</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10325207666347657971</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__SqHoOcLye4/SYUFUAmtxCI/AAAAAAAAABA/-w94Kz_hpeI/S220/Nat%27s+Picture+%231.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__SqHoOcLye4/SbV6rqGK9SI/AAAAAAAAACA/QuWV5OmKDhE/s72-c/FredWinters.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2865696058982071252.post-4251954208966104457</id><published>2009-02-23T22:43:00.011-06:00</published><updated>2010-07-05T19:13:28.994-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The Training in the "Bent" of a Child:  An exegesis of Proverbs 22:6</title><content type='html'>We are inundated with people who either realistically have never had children, don't plan on having any, or will never handle children of any sort; who are affecting the decision-making processes of parents who deal with children everyday. The sad thing is; I have always known that to be an expert in an area, you definitely must have experience in that area as far a practice is concerned.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are tons of people in our society that are academicians and theoriticians and not practitioners. Especially, when it comes to the subject of rearing children. I find it most beneficial that doctors in any science who practice are on the real cutting edge of breakthroughs, as far as diagnosis and treatment is concerned, and that doctors in any science who are academicians and have never practiced are just theoretic in most cases with regard to diagnosis and treatment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, the line in the rearing of children is not a one, two, or three step as some of these people assume. The mental framework of children are based on a "bent" or as the Scripture states in Proverbs 22:6, "Train up a child in the way that he should go, even when he is old he will not depart from it." The phrase "in the way that he should go" is literally rendered in the Hebrew, " `al- piy darkow" {`al- (in); piy (he should go); darkow (the way)} or in English "according to his way".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The phrase, "the way" in English is translated from the Hebrew "darkow" in the Septuagint (LXX --Greek translation of the Hebrew scriptures) and Masoretic Text. Both however, use the noun "derek" (deh-rek) which means literally "a road (as trodden)". Figuratively it means "a course of life or mode of action". The real catch is that this word or noun "derek" is derived from the root word or verb "darak" (daw-rak) which means "to tread; by implication, to walk; also to string a bow (by treading on it in bending)". Hence the key idea is that a child's training or "chanak" (to initiate, to teach, to dedicate, to consecrate, to inaugurate), should be according to his "bent" or "bending". This simply indicates that if a child's bent or bend is a certain way then that is how he should be consecrated, dedicated, initiated, inaugurated, or taught.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's face it some children are harder to bend than others. Better yet, it is hard to teach\train children who are bent in a certain direction. The whole idea of bending and training them is just so that they do as a bow does for an arrow, "shoot straight".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On many occasions I have had parents say that their son or daughter did change some things for the better, after being embarrased on a particular occasion. Then the son or daughter did say that he or she was embarrassed, and that the embarrassment did get the point across to them. So their emotional and psychological makeup was not hindered, it was bent right and now they are shooting arrows properly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On other occasions with children an embrace was more responsive than an embarrassment, which caused the same result; a child "shooting strait".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I must say the Scriptures always work out for the sake of those who properly apply understanding to the truths they (Scriptures) tend to teach.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2865696058982071252-4251954208966104457?l=gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/feeds/4251954208966104457/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/2009/02/training-in-bent-of-child-exegesis-of.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default/4251954208966104457'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default/4251954208966104457'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/2009/02/training-in-bent-of-child-exegesis-of.html' title='The Training in the &quot;Bent&quot; of a Child:  An exegesis of Proverbs 22:6'/><author><name>Nathaniel Wilson, Th.D.</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10325207666347657971</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__SqHoOcLye4/SYUFUAmtxCI/AAAAAAAAABA/-w94Kz_hpeI/S220/Nat%27s+Picture+%231.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2865696058982071252.post-4365514058187853070</id><published>2009-02-03T18:34:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2009-02-04T11:49:41.464-06:00</updated><title type='text'>The Crystal Cathedral and Personality Driven Churches:  A lesson in Affinity for men and Allegiance to Christ</title><content type='html'>Many in the church world have proven my point for years by what has been going on for the last twenty years or so. Their allegiance is not to Christ! I have said for some time now, "We may have an affinity for men, but our allegiance belongs to Christ!"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One News Now has on its website an online article dated 02-01-09 written by Associated Press writer Gillian Flaccus entitled, &lt;a href="http://www.onenewsnow.com/Church/"&gt;"Televangelism empire in chaos over family split"&lt;/a&gt;. An excerpt from the article states:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;"Once one of the nation's most popular televangelists, the Rev. Robert H. Schuller is watching his life's work crumble.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;His son and recent successor, the Rev. Robert A. Schuller, has abruptly resigned as senior pastor&lt;br /&gt;of the Crystal Cathedral. The shimmering, glass-walled megachurch is home to the "Hour of Power" broadcast, an evangelism staple that's been on the air for more than three decades.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The church is in financial turmoil: It plans to sell more than $65 million worth of its Orange County property to pay off debt. Revenue dropped by nearly $5 million last year, according to a recent letter from the elder Schuller to elite donors. In the letter, Schuller Sr. implored&lt;br /&gt;the Eagle's Club members - who supply 30 percent of the church's revenue - for donations and hinted that the show might go off the air without their support."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chrystal Cathedral is not going down as a church if it is founded on Christ. However, it is the televison programming "Hour of Power" that is going down as of this moment. Perhaps there is a time of judgement for this kind of thing. People have been substituting the local church for television church. One is biblical and the other is not! I agree with the interjection, "OH, WELL!" Parachurch ministries should spring from the local church but not be a substitute for it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That's the problem with these personality (the best name for Rick Warren's "purpose driven") driven churches. The only person to whom the church should be driven is Jesus Christ. There is to much man-center preaching, rather than Christ-honoring, God-glorifying, expository preaching that gives biblical doctrine ahead of seeker sensitivism. Suffice it to say the fact that the theology of Robert H. Schuller (the dad) is different that Robert A. Schuller (the son). You can even tell it in their preaching.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Church history teaches us that this kind of thing (personality driven church) is never ever going to work, because it does not have God's support or blessings upon it; no matter how long it has been in operation. Swaggart found that out. Check out most of his preaching now. It is totally different than it was years ago.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;True biblical exposition doesn't seek to draw crowds. It is exhalts God, and equips and draws saints. Evangelism is how you reach lost men (Matthew 28:19; Mark 16:15-16).   Discipleship and biblical expository doctrinal preaching is how you "keep" saved men (I Timothy 4:11-16; Acts 2:42-47).&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2865696058982071252-4365514058187853070?l=gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/feeds/4365514058187853070/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/2009/02/crystal-cathedral-and-personality.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default/4365514058187853070'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default/4365514058187853070'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/2009/02/crystal-cathedral-and-personality.html' title='The Crystal Cathedral and Personality Driven Churches:  A lesson in Affinity for men and Allegiance to Christ'/><author><name>Nathaniel Wilson, Th.D.</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10325207666347657971</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__SqHoOcLye4/SYUFUAmtxCI/AAAAAAAAABA/-w94Kz_hpeI/S220/Nat%27s+Picture+%231.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2865696058982071252.post-8041004861843172521</id><published>2009-01-31T20:23:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2009-01-31T21:15:44.466-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Response to and email concerning use of the terms in English texts "children" or "dear children" in John's epistles; and "angel" in Revelation 2-3</title><content type='html'>Dear Bro.,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not only is it a violation of the "rule of logic"; most definitely it is so, but also three other reading errors if not more: &lt;strong&gt;(1)&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;twisted translation&lt;/strong&gt; --when a text is retranslated, but not in accordance with sound Hebrew/Greek scholarship, to fit the preconceived teaching of a cult or even a particular teacher for that matter.  &lt;strong&gt;(2)&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;ignoring the immediate context&lt;/strong&gt; --a text is quoted but removed from the surrounding verses which form the immediate framework for its meaning.  &lt;strong&gt;(3)&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;collapsing contexts&lt;/strong&gt; --two or more verses which have little or nothing to do with each other are put together as if one were a commentary on the other.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The commentator is retranslating the verse after having looked at other books of the Bible authored by John.  His opinion is that if John uses the term in other of his writings then he must be using the same term here in Revelation with reference to these churches.  So change the translation and you will get that effect. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, once that is done then it leads to collapsing contexts.  What John discusses in the context of his other epistle does not necessarily mean that he is doing the same in Revelation 2-3.  After all the genre of Revelation is different than that of the gospel of John, and the Johnannine epistles (I, II, &amp;amp; III John).  The genre of Revelation is apocalyptic literature or writing (prophecy).  I, II, &amp;amp; III John are epistles.  The Gospel of John is narrative concerning the life of Christ. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is true that sometimes you can look at the other writings of an author and notice that he uses the same terms sometimes in other of his writings but again that would be in relation to discussing the same issue or similar issues.  Such as in I John 2:28 and I John 3:7 he uses the term "teknion" which comes from "teknon" used in II John 1:1 &amp;amp; III John 1:4 both terms meaning little children or darlings; particularly infants.  The term "teknion" comes from "teknon", which comes from "tikto" which means to produce, to bear, or to be delivered as in children or a child (teknon).  The whole idea is that these terms are used discussing that the Christians to whom John is writing these three epistles are immature Christians that he was responsible for as a spiritual father to them.  Better yet they are his spiritual children and his is concerned with their spiritual care.  Also, all three of these epistles contain the same terms in there particular contexts and describes the term with the same connotation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I John uses the terms refering to spiritual children as infants, but the contexts where the terms (teknon, &amp;amp; teknion) are used discusses being faithful in abiding in Christ as righteous until Christ returns (I John 2:28, 29) and in I John 2:20, 27 he states that the Holy Spirit on the inside will cause you to accept all teaching concerning Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;II John uses the same terms (teknon and teknion) as I John 2:28 does, but he is writing to a congregation symbolically called, "the elect (chosen) lady and her children" (II John 1:1, 4).  It is concening Gnosticism and it's false teaching concerning the incarnation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;III John uses the same terms (teknon &amp;amp; teknion) as does I and II John, but he is writing to Gaius his friend concerning walking in the truth with his children and his lack of appreciation toward Diotrephes (III John 9-11) who was not walking inthe truth, but dismissing anyone who did not agree with his policies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, where these word have shown the same connotations in their contexts, they however have collapsing contexts as to what they are each discussing.  In other words in word usage the people John is refering to in each of the above letters by their verses are the same contextually, but when discussing what each context is detailing about, the contexts collapse because they are each discussing about these children a different topic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, the reason these contexts collapse is there immediate contexts as just stated, discuss different issues.  However, sometimes a book by and author can use a translated word that is the same word in translation but not in meaning.  That is why some understanding of the original language's use of a word or the grammar needs to be understood to help us understand the context where and English translation uses a word that is not the same in meaning as the original translation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Such is the case with John's first letter in which he uses the term "paidia" in I John 2:13, 18; which means instruction, chastening, teaching or learning.  However, the English translations use the term(s), "children" or "dear children".  When the term is actually better translated by its meaning, "instruction" or "instructing".  Because John opens the second chapter calling them children (teknion) and addresses them as spiritual children.  Then throughout the second chapter the translation idea is accepted that he is talking to them as children (this of course is to me an example of all of the translations including KJV showing dynamic equivalence--thought for thought, and not formal equivalence--word for word [which is far better] ).  Although the term can and usually refers to the instruction given to someone as a child especially with relationship to the context.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This also shows that I John 2 which uses the terms "teknion" or "teknia" (2:1, 12, 28) as well as the term "paidia" (2:13, 18) can have different contexts or terms used in different ways in a context or contexts, and not mean the same thing.   So it is not good for the author of the article to try and say that the terms of a passage can always be acurately interpreted using a authors previous writings.  This is not always true.  Especially as we see here in I John 2, let alone I John 2:13, 18.  The term should be translated word for word as "instructing", "teaching", or "learning", even though John is talking to his spiritual children. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*{The reason the term "paidia" is translated "children" or "little children" is because the word comes from the Greek term "pais" which means "child" (the genitive case); "a boy" (often beaten with impunity); "a girl" (by analogy).  Then the terms' inflections or forms led to the meaning being "child instruction" or "instruction of a child".  Terms such as &lt;strong&gt;(A)&lt;/strong&gt; "paidion" (neuter)--a childling (boy or girl); and immature Christian (by analogy).  &lt;strong&gt;(B)&lt;/strong&gt; "paideuo"--to instruct, chasten, teach, or learn (as with children or a child).  &lt;strong&gt;(C)&lt;/strong&gt; "paidarion" --a little boy, a lad, a child.  &lt;strong&gt;(D)&lt;/strong&gt; "paidagogs" --a tutor, shoolmaster, instructor.}&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;{Wilson's (My)} word for word translation of I John 2:18 using the original text: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"["Instructing", "Teaching"; "Learing"], it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have arisen; from this we know that it is the last hour."  [Wilson's translation]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The same can be shown in the later part of I John 2:13d.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the Glory of God in all Things,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pastor N. Wilson&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;P.S.&lt;/strong&gt;  Also remember these individuals refered to in Revelation 2-3 as "angel" can't give the idea of evangelist that was stated in your response: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The term can hardly apply to an elder, for there seems to have been a plurality of elders in all the churches, and it is not likely that one would be singled out. It is my judgment that the angels were the preachers or evangelists of the churches. As these evangelists not only labored at home, but were often sent out, and were messengers to carry the good tidings, there is a fitness in applying the term to them. We know from the epistles of Paul and from church tradition, that Timothy was long the evangelist at Ephesus, and it is possible that he may have lived and labored until the time of John's banishment." [Your response.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The passages in the 2-3 chapters of Revelation is quite clear that these individuals were "of the seven churches" or "of the church in..." (Rev. 1:20; 2:1, 8, 12, 18; 3:1, 7, 14).  These guys were stationed in these churches, there is no evidence of them having laboured anywhere else or being sent out anywhere else.  So that idea would not fit well with the texts.  Also, although Timothy was told to do the work of and evangelist (II Tim. 4:5), that does not change the fact that he was the pastor to the Ephesian church (63-66 AD) during Paul's time, by the way, not during the time John wrote the book of Revelation (81-96 AD).  The book of Revelation was writen years later (at least 15-30yrs later).  Remember, John was the last of the Apostles to die and the longest of them known to have lived.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; It is possible that Timothy could still have been alive but not likely, due to the reign of the particular emporer of the time being Nero (who burned Rome and blamed the Christian--then had many of them executed), who usually found the leaders of the churches and had them terminated, and then the church would scatter until another leader was placed.  (1) An old tradition states that Timothy continued on as bishop of Ephesus and was later suffered martydom by Domitian or Nerva (D.E. Hiebert, Personalities around Paul (1973); pp. 98-113).  (2) Nicephorus said that he was clubbed to death for having in the temple of Diana at her statute's feet for having denounced its licentiousness (Ecclesiastical History iii. 11).  (3) The historian Calmet says that,  "possibly Timothy was "the angel to the church at Ephesus" (Rev 2:1).  The praise and the censure agree with Timothy's character, as it appears in Acts and the epistles. The temptation of such an ardent yet soft temperament would be to "leave his first love." Christ's promise of the tree of life to him that overcometh (Rev 2:5, 7) accords with 2 Tim 2:4-6. Paul, influenced by his own inclination (Acts 16:3) and the prophets' intimations respecting him (1 Tim 1:18; 4:14; 2 Tim 1:6: compare Paul's own ease, Acts 13:1), with his own hands, accompanied with the presbytery's laying on of hands, ordained him "evangelist" (2 Tim 4:5)."( Fausset's Bible Dictionary, Copyright (c)1998)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, Paul's statement to Timothy in II Timothy 4:5 about "doing the work of and evangelist" could also have the idea of doing evangelism in the area of Ephesus where he pastored.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2865696058982071252-8041004861843172521?l=gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/feeds/8041004861843172521/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/2009/01/response-to-and-email-concerning-use-of.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default/8041004861843172521'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2865696058982071252/posts/default/8041004861843172521'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://gracecommunitypulpit.blogspot.com/2009/01/response-to-and-email-concerning-use-of.html' title='Response to and email concerning use of the terms in English texts &quot;children&quot; or &quot;dear children&quot; in John&apos;s epistles; and &quot;angel&quot; in Revelation 2-3'/><author><name>Nathaniel Wilson, Th.D.</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10325207666347657971</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='22' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__SqHoOcLye4/SYUFUAmtxCI/AAAAAAAAABA/-w94Kz_hpeI/S220/Nat%27s+Picture+%231.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>
